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	<title>Ribble Valley Media</title>
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		<copyright>&#xA9;Mark Wilkinson </copyright>
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		<itunes:summary>The radio station of the Ribble Valley in Lancashire, UK.

Ribble Valley Media or RVM is a community based radio station in the Ribble Valley in Lancashire, UK.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Ribble Valley Guides broadcast Live on RVM</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As part of their 100th celebrations up to 60 Ribble Valley Guides came into the studios on Sunday the 21st of February. From 2pm packs divided up into small groups with each nominating a host who was then  allocated a theme of their choice to talk about. Three guides were also given the chance to interview Mary [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As part of their 100th celebrations up to 60 Ribble Valley Guides came into the studios on Sunday the 21st of February. From 2pm packs divided up into small groups with each nominating a host who was then  allocated a theme of their choice to talk about. Three guides were also given the chance to interview Mary Robinson about her role as Mayor</p>
<p>Prior to broadcasting across the region, UK and world, Ribble Valley&#8217;s Guides marched through the town centre from the memorial before taking part in a series of creative activities including broadcasting on Ribble Valley Media.</p>
<p>This was a fantastic day for us all and some potential stars of radio were uncovered amongst the 10,11 and 12 year olds. A big thank-you to them and all the pack leaders for a wonderful few hours of community radio.</p>
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		<title>The Dale Bamber Show&#8230;Exposed!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Ribble Valley gets national coverage</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People from across the UK  waking up and switching on the television last Sunday morning, the 7th of February, had the pleasure of sharing their breakfast and Sunday papers with some wonderful images and stories from the Ribble Valley. Featured on BBC 1&#8217;s &#8216;Country Tracks,&#8221; Clitheroe, Mitton, Downham and Pendle Hill were all featured.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="justify">People from across the UK  waking up and switching on the television last Sunday morning, the 7th of February, had the pleasure of sharing their breakfast and Sunday papers with some wonderful images and stories from the Ribble Valley. Featured on BBC 1&#8217;s &#8216;Country Tracks,&#8221; Clitheroe, Mitton, Downham and Pendle Hill were all featured. <a href="http://www.ribblevalleymedia.com/ribblevalleygetsnationalcoverage/#more-311" class="more-link">(more&#8230;)</a></p>
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		<title>NEW SHOWS COMING SOON</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We here at Ribble Valley Media are thrilled to announce that we have 3 new show coming on line soon.
MONDAY&#8217;S - 8-10pm. The return of Vic Groves and his Vault. Featuring Doo Wop, Big Band, Rock n Roll and so much more, Vic&#8217;s choice records and exciting competitions make for perfect Monday evening listening.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We here at Ribble Valley Media are thrilled to announce that we have 3 new show coming on line soon.</p>
<p>MONDAY&#8217;S - 8-10pm. The return of <strong>Vic Groves</strong> and his Vault. Featuring Doo Wop, Big Band, Rock n Roll and so much more, Vic&#8217;s choice records and exciting competitions make for perfect Monday evening listening.</p>
<p>TUESDAY&#8217;S - 8-10pm. From March 2nd, <strong>Paul Derbyshire</strong> will be joining the line up with an eclectic mix of local music. Showcasing bands and singers from The Ribble Valley and Manchester is what he&#8217;s about with Paul promising plenty of live performances and interviews with the stars of the future.</p>
<p>SUNDAY&#8217;S - 4-5pm. Coming soon, <strong>John Garrod</strong> will be hosting his weekly Ribble Valley business show featuring news, views, opinios and advice from buisness leaders in the area.</p>
<p>SUNDAY&#8217;S - 5-6pm. Straight after, John will be joined by partner <strong>Sonia</strong> to persue their joint passion for all things Soul Music.</p>
<p>Biographies and pictures coming soon</p>
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		<title>Siri</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Due to illness in the presenter&#8217;s family, Bringing Up Babies is taking a break.  Hopefully it will be back on air in 2010.  Many thanks to all who have listened and emailed.  Siri
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&#8216;Bringing Up Babies&#8217;  is your Saturday morning show all about babies and young children, hosted by Siri, a Ribble Valley Mum.  We&#8217;ll be covering sleep, feeding, when to [...]]]></description>
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<p>&#8216;Bringing Up Babies&#8217;  is your Saturday morning show all about babies and young children, hosted by Siri, a Ribble Valley Mum.  We&#8217;ll be covering sleep, feeding, when to return to work, life with twins&#8230; Whatever we discuss, it will be an honest look at life with babies and young children and a supportive place for &#8217;Parent-to-Parent advice&#8217; and professionals&#8217; input, too.  Email your experiences - <a href="mailto:studio@ribblevalleymedia.com">studio@ribblevalleymedia.com</a>  ***First show 14th November 2009***</p>
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		<title>Dubstyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8221; Dubstyle with Will &#38; Joel features the newest in underground music with new releases from DMZ, Stenchman, High Contrast, Clipz, Rusko, The Others and many other Dubstep &#38; Drum n bass heavy hitters. The underground music scene is constantly redeveloping itself and evolving and with this comes lots of new music, so Will &#38; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Dubstyle with Will &amp; Joel features the newest in underground music with new releases from DMZ, Stenchman, High Contrast, Clipz, Rusko, The Others and many other Dubstep &amp; Drum n bass heavy hitters. The underground music scene is constantly redeveloping itself and evolving and with this comes lots of new music, so Will &amp; Joel are here to bring you these fresh underground sounds every Thursday night from 8pm - 10pm. <br />
The show is interactive and requests are taken as well as shouts going out right through the show so listen in, get in touch, enjoy the positive bassline vibrations their show brings to your speakers and tell them what you want to hear on their show. Remember, RVM is for you. &#8221;</p>
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		<title>Mary and Debbie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly Mary &#38; Debs have had to drop their committments to present their show and will both be  missed. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly Mary &amp; Debs have had to drop their committments to present their show and will both be  missed. </p>
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		<title>Franks Column</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every week local citizen of Clitheroe and RVM presenter, Frank Watson will write a column on behalf of our diverse and sometimes intriguing community
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every week local citizen of Clitheroe and RVM presenter, Frank Watson will write a column on behalf of our diverse and sometimes intriguing community <a href="http://www.ribblevalleymedia.com/frankscolumn/#more-306" class="more-link">(more&#8230;)</a></p>
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		<title>Clitheroe Castle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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Clitheroe Castle - taken by David Cawley
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<p>Clitheroe Castle - taken by David Cawley</p>
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		<title>Simon Whiteside‏</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Programme Synopsis:
 
The On Air Surgery is a weekly show broadcasting live throughout the Ribble Valley and across the Internet each Thursday from 6pm-8pm, with repeat pre-recorded broadcasts in-between.
It is hosted by Simon Whiteside.
On the show we will be discussing issues and topics pertinent to you, our listeners that affect your lives in the Ribble Valley. Topics [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><u>Programme Synopsis:</u></strong><br />
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The On Air Surgery is a weekly show broadcasting live throughout the Ribble Valley and across the Internet each Thursday from 6pm-8pm, with repeat pre-recorded broadcasts in-between.<br />
It is hosted by Simon Whiteside.</p>
<p>On the show we will be discussing issues and topics pertinent to you, our listeners that affect your lives in the Ribble Valley. Topics will range from Ageing In The Ribble Valley, Depression, Drug &amp; Alcohol Use, Ribble Valley Youth, Ribble Valley Communities: Are They Lost?, and a host of other issues chosen by and led by you, our listeners.</p>
<p>Each week we hope to have a guest panel to assist our callers, texters and e-mailers with their problems, and respond to their comments. Alternatively, some weeks it&#8217;ll be just me, you, and a whole load of talk.</p>
<p>So, I look forward to hearing from you all very soon!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Simon<br />
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<strong><u>Presenter&#8217;s Q&amp;A</u></strong><br />
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<u><strong>Why did you want to do this kind of show?</strong> </u><br />
I&#8217;ve always been a talkative and social person, so on reflection I think a talk orientated programme was inevitable. In terms of the show being topical and issues led, I trained for 4 years as a Counsellor in the Person Centred therapy model. I meet a variety of people in my private practice with various backgrounds, and with a multitude of personal issues. Without meaning to sound &#8220;worthy&#8221;, I&#8217;ve always been drawn to the human condition and the emotional facets that can be so powerful in driving us to feel the way we do and do the things we do. I&#8217;m hoping some of this will come through in the show. I don&#8217;t necessarily want it to just be a &#8220;shouting shop&#8221; for airing grievances or problems. I&#8217;d actually like to scratch the surface with some callers and scale the issue back a bit so that we end up looking how it&#8217;s specific and <em>personal</em> to them as an individual, rather than them as a representative of a larger group of people in the community.<br />
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<strong><u>But you&#8217;re presenting a Community Radio show. Isn&#8217;t it important to try and encourage a sense of community?</u></strong><br />
Absolutely, and I think we <em>will</em> be doing that because the issues and topics, broadly speaking touch on community issues and certain &#8220;groups&#8221; within our community. Community does not mean we are all the same. We choose to live together and so we share common experiences within that togetherness. However, behind that we are all unique individuals irrespective of commonalities. I&#8217;m hoping I&#8217;ll be able to convey this on the show.<br />
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<strong><u>Have you done any radio before?</u></strong><br />
Ooo, a &#8220;smidge&#8221; back in my wayward youth! I dabbled in Hospital Radio in my late teens with a friend of mine. We didn&#8217;t especially have a &#8220;vision&#8221; for our show. It was more irreverent talk and camp nonsense. Around this time I did a short radio course at the home of former Radio 1 D.J., Bruno Brookes. It was a real eye opener. One of the cardinal sins of radio is you cannot have &#8220;dead air&#8221; where there&#8217;s nothing being said or played, so we had to talk non-stop for 1 minute, unscripted. As the timer counted down the minute there was this &#8220;heartbeat&#8221; sound getting faster and faster. I don&#8217;t think any of us succeeded in this task. We all corpsed under the pressure! It was on this course we did &#8220;phone in&#8221; style shows one day, and I think it&#8217;s at this point I realised I thrived on the interaction with listeners. One of the women on the course was in another room phoning through to the studio and she decided she&#8217;d be an incredibly aggressive caller. It was a baptism of fire, I can tell you!<br />
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<strong><u>Will you be playing music on your show?</u></strong><br />
A little, yes. It isn&#8217;t a music show, and I must make that very clear. We already have the talented Mr. Dale Bamber filling up the schedules with a commercial based music programme, along with Frank Watson and his classical music based show, so there&#8217;s no real need to replicate any of that. The records I play will basically act to &#8220;punctuate&#8221; the talking on the programme, so both listeners (and me!) have a moment to pop the kettle on now and again. It&#8217;ll also give me some time to look at lining up the next caller or e-mail. I&#8217;m looking to &#8220;theme&#8221; some of the records, though. Depending on the topic or issue we are discussing, I may pick songs that are appropriate to it. When we do Ageing In The Ribble Valley, for example, I whole heartedly intend to play The Beatles, &#8220;When I&#8217;m 64&#8243;, and depending on the majority demographic of the listenership for that evening I&#8217;ll manoeuvre the music selections a bit to appeal more to them; I doubt I&#8217;ll be playing big band Glen Miller if we&#8217;re talking about an issue specific to a much younger listenership, although if anyone calls in wanting it during the show - you never know, I may pop it on!<br />
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<strong><u>Have you always lived in the Ribble Valley?</u></strong><br />
No, although I was born and bred here and all of my family roots are based around the Ribble Valley area. I went to Pendle CP School, and when it was time to go to Secondary School my family relocated up to Cumbria. So, I spent my teenage years growing up in Barrow-in-Furness with just my Mum and Dad. I then went on to Salford University to study English Literature and Cultural Studies. I stayed in Manchester for 14 years, and only about 18 months ago did I relocate back to the Ribble Valley area. I was missing my family. My Mum had moved back about 13 years previously, and basically I was done with the big city. I had a dog, and my interests began to change from all that a city can offer to all that a more rural environment can offer. I have to say, I&#8217;m very pleased to be back &#8220;home&#8221;. As I&#8217;ve aged and grown up I&#8217;ve started to appreciate my roots more. When I was younger, I couldn&#8217;t wait to get out there and away from all that I perceived as &#8220;holding me back&#8221;.<br />
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<strong>Finally, a few quick fires for you&#8230;.</strong><br />
<strong><u>Marmite?</u></strong><br />
Ooo, YES! *yum*<br />
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<strong><u>Kylie or Madonna?</u></strong><br />
Kylie! Better live performer. More focused as an entertainer. Doesn&#8217;t take herself too seriously and doesn&#8217;t think she&#8217;s something she isn&#8217;t. That said, you have to respect Madge for the career she has and what she&#8217;s achieved. I just think she hasn&#8217;t made a truly great &#8220;Madonna Album&#8221; since &#8220;<em>Like A Prayer</em>&#8220;, with &#8220;<em>Ray Of Light</em>&#8221; being a possible exception. All the Madonna fans out there - bring it! ;p<br />
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<strong><u>Cheryl or Dannii?</u></strong><br />
Both, really. Can I say that? I think they have equal value on the X-factor, but I do think the producers have treated Dannii appallingly since Cheryl came along. I mean, Dannii barely got any screen time in the last series. C&#8217;mon, people! Be fair!<br />
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<strong><u>Indie Boy or Pop Tart?</u></strong><br />
Again, both! I&#8217;m not a music snob. My first record was Sonia&#8217;s &#8220;<em>Listen To Your Heart</em>&#8221; for goodness sake! I was a SAW fanatic back in the day. But, I am passionate about what I listen too. I&#8217;m more than happy with the latest Girls Aloud record, but then I also like to listen to more left field, less commercial stuff like Angelo Badalamenti, Belle &amp; Sebastian, Gossip, Friendly Fires, Nneka etc&#8230; I&#8217;ll give anything a listen, but if I don&#8217;t like it you will know about it and you&#8217;ll know why I think it&#8217;s wrong on <em>so</em> many levels! LOL!<br />
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<strong><u>Crunchy or Smooth?</u></strong><br />
Crunchy! *noms*<br />
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<strong><u>Dog or Cat?</u></strong><br />
Dog every time! I love animals in general, and I&#8217;m no cat hater, but I definitely have a predisposition towards dogs. Cooper (my dog) and I are best mates and he gives back to me what I give to him a thousand times over. Cats tend not to do that in my experience. You could say I&#8217;m needy and require constant reassurance that I&#8217;m loved. This may be why I&#8217;m a single dog owner and have a better affinity with animals. I&#8217;m still psychoanalysing that one! LOL.</p>
<p><strong><u>Who <em>really</em> killed Laura Palmer?</u></strong></p>
<p>David Lynch. If he&#8217;d just stuck with being more involved in Season 2 of &#8220;<em>Twin Peaks&#8221;</em>, I&#8217;m convinced the show wouldn&#8217;t have gone off the air like it did. As it was, he was heavily involved in &#8220;<em>Wild At Heart</em>&#8221; and a couple of other projects when Series 1 ended. Subsequently, it slid down hill a bit after that. </p>
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